Now you want to look out for the variator systems metal lid. it would explain in some manner why there is absolutely on acceleration to speak of when taking off on the damn thing, compared to other niftys Ive rode that take off as fast as a bra in a strip club. ( I noticed you mentioed Here in Germany ) And was hoping you could tell me where I can find out information regarding what is or isnt legal in German ? They practically could be made entirely from mechanical devices like cams no ICs and only a few switches (transistors/SCRs). and where to buy them at. Scooter Stop shows how easy it is to make your Kymco 50cc scooter 5-8 mph faster or either order a scooter online and have us do it. Hi, No, usually the stock mainjet is ok for derestricting. 2-4 are very unusual. Check your variator boss, some kymco super 8s come with the restricted variator. No, sorry. It should be removed as the ring causes the engine to run at a high engine revenue speed most of the time (imagine you cycle on a bike always on the first three gears even though the bike has seven). The Chinese all use CDI restricted Minarelli clones. Count the teeth on the front cogwheel and and get 1 size bigger one (means one more tooth there). I had to push the frakin thing up to a lesser incline the shame. The restrictions are to ensure that you dont break the law when you go over this speed. I have ready that changin the main carb valve for a 60 valve is a good option. Best, Daniel. UP TO 35 ON THE DASH FROM 30. Hey Shaun, Yes, this sounds like the gears are too short! also how would I go about finding an unrestricted CDI? Simply remove the air filter hose from your carburator and look out for plates that prevent the air flowing through your carburator when its throttle is opened. Which parts are necessary to buy to tune up the engine? Thank you! ;). Thank you very much. Thank you for recommending the page and I hope to see you on TuningMatters.com 2.0! The Piaggio Injection models utilize a restricted CDI. This should do the job! Hi I have a 50cc derbi pro 2011, i have taken off the restrictor plate, do you know if you are supposed to raise the jet or lower the jet? The only parts acceptable to remove from an air filter are diameter restricting nozzles as pictured below. The cooler alternative imho is to swap with a Minarelli 50cc engine as its 2-Stroke, but thats just me :). Ive built many engines in past years Cars Twin turbo 300zx, Corvettes, Porsche v8 928s4 etcand crotch rockets as well as dirt bikes. Description This Allows The Kymco Agility 50cc & The Kymco Super 8 50cc To Go 5-8 mph Faster Than Stock. Restrictions through replaced parts on the other hand cant be simply removed. Youll notice that half the bolts are on the bottom of the lid, while the other half are on the top of the lid. This is just a general note and depends on your scooter model. If you dont find one, dont worry; some manufacturers dont include the second washer in the variator system. NONE of this explains to me why the belt is not traveling fully up the vario and so allowing the bike to reach its intended potential, or maybe im just missing something thats staring me right in the face and i just dont know to look for it yet? The CDI (Capacitor Discharge Ignition) is a black piece of electronics that handles the ignition process of the scooter. Place your scooter on the main stand and make sure it's secure. I see what you mean now bout the CDI modification or lack of. This depends on the vendor and manufacturer of your scooter. The belt is too narrow. Description. Will replace with new one anyway for DIRECT comparison for future reference. Daniel, I have a new Italkit 70cc cylinder kit for a Aprilia Morini engine. Tho, even without the restriction, those new 4st engines are made for fuel efficiency rather than high speeds, so dont expect too much :-/, Hi I just bought a 2010 kymco super 8 50 2t I enjoy it but it tops out at 25mph is there any advice you could give me to increase the mph to at least 40. i have a gilera ice 50, ive recently bought a stage 6 exhaustm which should have fit on my ped, but the mainfold where i join them together are 90 degrees out? These devices follow some kind of voodoo for the average person kind of like the old AC/Heater timer controllers about 25 years ago. at 12mm the mainjet should be 55 or 60! ive just derestricted my sx1 and its capable of 90km the only problem is it wont pull off the line. This is going to vary depending on the make and model. It is attached to the system by a pin that is tightened into place with a small bolt. Scooter Stop Sells World Class Scooters. [] RicambiMoto2000.it Ricambi e accessori per scooter e moto. cant find any info anywhere. Always ride within your limits and be aware that you might need a different drivers license when a scooter exceeds a certain speed or engine capacity. This is a necessary process, so youll want to make sure you do it right. Most stock exhaust feature a dummy pipe on the exhaust manifold whereas restricted after market exhausts have a little diameter restriction welded into the down pipe. I have a 125cc honda Aero, currently it goes around 45-50. Still, keeping the rear pulley well lubricated is essential. Never even considered opening it up and by-passing the restriction, which is, im guessing, the mod youre talkin bout!? Derbi has Minarelli engines I believe. Im certain it has to do with the mainjet. Thanks Shaun. Simply grind off the small welding spot that hold the restriction in place and it can be easily removed. Maybe the problem is much more with the cdi. Does it take a while on the straight from standing before the engine picks up on speed and starts revving higher? The carburator is responsible for supplying a mix of petrol and air to the cylinder. The variomatic ring restriction prevents the engine transmission from reaching its maximum gear ratio, thus limiting the top speed of the engine. Please Please Please Send all like links to the supplied e-mail address !!! However, this will not make your scooter faster, but only allow it to rev higher. Youll want to use it so that the pulley wheel at the front can be secured with it. Some catalyst exhausts have a hose connected to the transmission housing (Piaggio). Does it rev up cleanly or are there problems? I would like to increase the speed but not sure what I should buy, nor if thats what is the problem or if they are even able to be customized to high performance engines. I mean bike is only 3yrs old, and has more than likely never bin changed, which begs the question of the longevity of belts? The other things to do are described in the article. Hey Daniel, Do you have any ideas/tips on how to derestrict a 2016 Lance Cabo 50? But I believe you should replace after every 10.000km. might have gotten ahead of myself here but just picked up a suzuki ts125x as a first geared project, as never ridden one b4, and am having trouble finding the relevant service manuals and was wondering if you could point me in the right direction? Certainly too heavy rollers. All-in-all. Add To Cart More Options Available. Remove that and you will get some more top end. Normally unrestricting doesnt require any settings changes at all, so you should be good to go. cheers for the info on the springs makin the noise, wouldnt have bin able to diagnose that myself. If you know of any CDI for my scooter (IF its CDI restricted ofc) PLEASE link it, I live in Europe btw. That will limit your top speed. KYMCO SUPER 8 50x 5-8 mph FASTER SCOOTER STOP Mostly the complex air routing of air filter increases filtering performance therefore allowing the engine to perform well under any conditions (be it a heavy monsun in India or a sandstorm in the desert). Step 2 Open up the variator system. Any idea what the top speed would be with a un-restricted CDI? Thanks for the help have ordered some new sprockets thanks shaun, Hi, I just got my Vespa Primavera 50 2T derestricted in certified Vespa garage, but on my way home I noticed that acceleration isnt what it used to be. I see that you dont update your page too often. You should see a plastic intake covering over it. Upgrading vs. Derestricting Kymco People 50 | ScooterForum.net Is the CDI the only restriction i should worry about? Thanks in advance Martin. The speed of your 4-stroke, 50CC scooter is restricted by a small washer found in the scooter's variator system. Its been hard to get thia restricted but I am getting there. Does anyone know what restrictions are on the Lexmoto vienna 50cc. 1) Variator System. I meant pointless. Hello all. Bought it @ 150. Here, just the thinner air does a number on your effective HP. If we decide to do any tuning mods, well have to look into Colorados rules and if we need to get a MC designation on our licenses. 2. When i removed the vario to inspect the ring, with two lengths of bicycle chain linked together and attached round the center stand structure for leverage by the way, i immediately noticed that the travel line of the belt was a poor 2/3rds of the way up the var and looked like it had never even been close to full potential. Got any tricks? Derestricting your 50cc scooter is a simple process that you can easily do yourself with the help of three wrenches and the method thats been laid out in this article. Again, you get no performance boost if you take out the catalyst and let unburnt fuel pollute the air that we breath, instead of getting it burned in the catalyst. BELT (default width = TBA)(verified width = TBA) never thought about it being too narrow?! I'm currently looking at options for upgrading it. You can it's incredibly easy. You can use the best adsense alternative for any type of website (they approve all websites), for more details simply search in gooogle: boorfes tips monetize your website. Removing the catalyst from the exhaust is much more difficult as the exhaust needs to be cut open and after removal welded together again. Be careful when modifying the air filter box. minimal damage to seat, fairings, etc but also dmg to air filter, was virtually hangin off where the piping exits the filter heading towards the carb. Ive asked the shops about the CDIs, and they are saying it doesnt work with the Bullet RS. Is the rev increasing then? And it does it very well. Im now wondering if it could be the pulley making this noise due to some kind of interference. You will find a lot of information on those on my site :), I have found that on Tao Tao Scooters and Roketa, as well as most other Chinese scooters too; that removing the black plastic plate between the cylinder head and intake manifold greatly increases the power of the scooter, that combined with removing the air box, blocking off the emissions system with a vacuum cap on the intake manifold, replacing the main jet with a #95 jet and installing a UNI Filter is a cheap and extremely effective way of getting tons more power out of your engine. Derestrict the CDI of a 50cc TGB Bullet Anon, Check the attached links,instruction and guides, Good luck. You would need to check what the default width of the belt is, and use a gauge to verify this (or better buy a new belt right away, but you still need to know the size) 3. TBH, if I was to do this properly, Id use a PLL with the appropriate timing diagrams to design a CDI. Im looking to get into customising mopeds but would like to find out some information as to what the restrictions are in German. Is your airfilter clean? We Ship These Fine Scooters Nationwide In The USA. Removing restrictions and riding a scooter without having a valid drivers license is illegal. Would really like to see it. I ride around the University of Florida and would like just a little more acceleration and speed. Help just had clutch to bits on piaggio nr3 now engine cuts. Also, this is only valid for the 50cc models. Can you double check with them? am reaching 17.5k on the clock an i bet the belt aint bin changed yet so theres another new part for the ever-growing list. Detach the kickstart from the variator system. 3. Many thanks! So, you want to take it out. Too light and the engine will overrev, too heavy and the engine wont rev enough when accelerating out of corners. Making a Kymco Lite 50cc faster : r/scooters Variator weights are so light, that the given engine speed does not produce enough g-fore to pull the variator plates together. so, bore big drown the engine and only necessary dwarf pipe hail brute force !!! It reaches 45 on the flat (even with the variator restriction), but will slow to under 20 on even a moderate gradient. Manufacturers restrict 50cc scooters for a reason. And after some research i thought a derestricted cdi would help so i bought one, installed, and no change. Frustrated, I left the damn thing alone for a few days, then thinking that the restriction may have something to do with the revs,i remembered a video id downloaded off youTube that mentioned a pink wire, and after hours of collaborative research into it, i was under the assumption that as my CDI was 6 pin with 6 wires, one being predominantly white with a pink stripe, and being located at the pin that leads from the CDI to the stator trigger pulse, that temporarily cutting this wire would fool the bike into thinking it is standing still, and allow you to rev the bike as high as you want!, alas guess what happened when i cut it ;) thats right absolutely JACK $H|T, it wouldnt even start, so reattached wire an starts fine as usual. I have had a problem with the auto choke as the bike is hard to start and does not rev slightly higher when first started but seems ok when it warms up. It is one of the most technical parts of an engine. Swap kits plus motor cost about 5-600$ and gets you up to about 6-70mph afaik. Also, would cdi box benefit me or no. hi david i live in pakistan and have a yamaha junoon yd 100 and its cdi has gone faulty.the original is 1.too expensive 2.not availble any where near to me 3.its quality is not good as compared to the original one that came with the bike so it will probs go faulty again.what im thinking is of installing cg 125s cdi and coil with my own bikenow what i wanted to know is what are the disadvantages of having too much spark in the spark plug.i mean im installing a heavy cdi in place of original one, Hi I have this 50cc Pocket bike Im a person that loves to go fast. By good I mean these can be removed easily without spending a single penny (given the right tools). This process will require an impact wrench, a strap wrench, and a socket wrench. Top of the range in every sense really! I have Peugeot Speedfight 3 2012 plate, and it does not run over 30-32MPH and it extremely irritating because when within the limit I want to go faster. careers. The kind that had epoxy not to keep moisture out, but human eyes. The strap thats part of your wrench needs to be wrapped around the front pulley wheel. Hi ,daniel ,I have a yamaha neos yn50 2 stroke,I have put a q-tre sports exhaust on will I have to put a different jet size on carb the one I have on is size 60. size 60 should be ok. Maybe size 65 check the spark plug! This simple washer might not seem like much, but its playing a big part in restricting your 50cc scooter. I have searched on ALOT of websites, and i havent found a single derestricted CDI for my Bullet RS. There is two things you can do: 1. thanks shaun. For example some stock exhausts use a very long exhaust manifold that decreases the gas flow and therefore resulting in reduced performance. just finished reading the How to de-restrict a 50cc Scooter page, and i must say that Ive just learnt more in the past 15 minutes, than i have in the 2 years of riding & reading nothing but $H|T on the net. Hi, This sounds a bit odd. currently running at way too slow and really need the help. hi , i have a pulse scout, i found and removed a restriction using a dremmel pencil grinder, it was located in the throttle twist grip housing ,was a thin barrier part of the ally casting that simply stopped the twist grip from fully rotating by catching on a nylon lug on the twist grip!! They are a good investment and can be used for carburators up to 21mm diameter in size. These restrictions are not stock and therefore need to be installed by the vendor of the scooter. Suffice to say I was put to shame by my little bro for the first time in my life as he out-done me on both top-end and acceleration. Here is my questioni dont understand how removing the air box will cause the engine to bog down bad It wont take the gas like it did with the restrictive air box Im stumped.I placed a piece of tape over the intake that connected to the air box and that fixed the problem. Is it only nessesary to change this if I am adding a performance exhaust?? $79.99 F79-8677 CDI Module for the Baja Sun City (SC150) $8.99 G07-1570 More Options Available High Output Ignition Coil & CDI Module (Ignitor) Set for 50cc to 150cc Scooters $19.99 X98-9333 CDI Module (Ignitor) with 3 Connectors for the Baja Wilderness Trail (WD400) 400cc ATV, & 500cc / 700cc ATVs $78.99 F79-8685 Hi Marco, The Honda 4 Stroke engines are not restricted in the common way. Search for: Murgrabias tools go viral. What would you recommend for me to just tuned it up a little bit more.? (Drive boss is located in your CVT) about. When reassembling the variomatic the crankshaft nut should be secured using Loctite (medium) or a similar threadlocking adhesive. Hi Daniel, Thanks for the interesting article. Rollers Not sure what you mech meant, but you need the right rollers for your enigne configuration. Complicating the issue further still are derestrictions and modifications. 2. Its given to me as a company vehicle, so i only want to derestrict it, because quite honestly the lack of performance scares me more than my Ninja, and its definitely got more go in it than Honda is giving me from the factory. Shopping Cart. Hi just wondering if you can give me some advice on how to tune my speedfight 1 50cc it has 70cc kit but reaching 45 max Thanks. p.s i have a full bike licsence and also have a VFR800 slightly faster than the neos. what jetsize do you currentlt have installed? At least YOU have an understanding of the operation & function of the parts you talk about, and describe them in a manner that is easy to comprehend. I dont speak very well English, and I was wondering if you can help me, my moped is a Honda vision 50 cc 4 stroke. I wrote this article with the goal, of having a complete overview about the different forms of restrictions applied to 50cc engines nowadays. They follow a pretty simple (and thus easy to identify) formula, obviously. However, sometimes the manifold is even to small for the stock carburator. This is easy enough with your socket wrench. Almost all China engines have the limited CDI installed. A stock carburator usually has a diameter of 12mm. Surely, the Chinese bike companies would know which is most cost-effective. Welding a washer onto the hole should do the job. Out at half throttle anybody know why. This will help in clarifying my understanding of the CDI, as im only JUST learning how it functions. any info on this would be helpfull, i am mechanically minded. In some countries, its illegal to ride derestricted 50cc scooters when youre on a provisional license, and there are some places where it is illegal whatever license you have. The restriction definitely does not lie in the front pully wheel because there is no restrictive washer in there, i have checked. It currently does 87kmh but it can only do 62kmh max to pass the test. Or more common sense language: These engines all need mostly the same timing because theyre all GY6 clones! Peace-out! Beware as the stock exhausts are usually much more expensive than an aftermarket part and at the end of the day you will buy an aftermarket exhaust anyways when considering tuning as a serious hobby :). My initial worry was that the belt looked like it had too much slack, as if it had been over-stretched, but i know virtually nothing bout em. My highest was 45 and that was down hill. 4. 150cc '08 Baron Merato 150T. Let us know in the comments or the forum and I will answer for sure! how DO you tell a chink bike from a jap? These can be assumed safe to remove without affecting the life time of an engine. Thank you for the info and hope to help some other people that have the same desire of better speed. 1 6 comments Best cyber_officer 9 yr. ago On my 2012 agility 50 I had to do both. In some cases, this cover will be bolted to the carburetor. Cheap replacement manifolds can be found on eBay for around 15. KYMCO Agility 50 Scooter Parts Hi Lee, This sound indeed weird. How to derestrict a 50cc scooter kymco Scooter Therapy Inc 12 N. Few St Madison, WI 53703 toll free 1-800-411-1543 local 1-608-255-1520 fax 1-608-255-1587 E-mail Hours: M-F, 9-6 Saturday, 10-3 CST VISA, MASTERCARD, DISCOVER, AMERICAN EXPRESS & PAYPAL accepted *Prices listed DO NOT include shipping and handling fees. Hi Daniel, I have bought a sachs sx-1 which was standard but broken so I have fitted a new 70cc cylinder and cylinder head, new Leo Vince exhaust (with restrictor removed) and unrestricted new C D I. << Return Technical Advice Click here for information to remove rev limiter on Kymco AGILITY,PEOPLE 50 S, FILLY Scooter Therapy Inc 12 North Few Street | Madison, WI 53703 toll free 1-800-411-1543 | local 1-608-255-1520 fax 1-608-255-1587 | E-mail 2015 TuningMatters.comConcept and Development Daniel-Klose.com. A derestricted CDI is not a problem at all. There are legal limits on how fast you can ride a scooter. by removing it or even simply filing the nylon part away i found the carb butterfly opened fully and not half way as previously. Hi i want to derestrict my 2 stroke 50cc scooter it is a Honda Hero Winner. If youve got a 50cc scooter that is restricted, you wont be able to make the most of its engine, and that means that youll be limited in the speed that you can go. The Ruckus is a dope scooter, tho the engine is unfortunately not so great You can look for the general restrictions like carburator and variator ring and remove it, tho the most people go fo an engine swap and use a GY6 150cc china engine. Please do not cut any wires or try opening the CDI. Some also come with a variator ring and the carburator air intake restriction! It is attached to the system by a pin that is tightened into place with a small bolt. This standard also states that the speed limitations can be removed according to the skill of the rider. i have a 2009 50cc keeway f-act japanese performance scooter..does it have restrictions and where and what would be the restrictions on it. The cdi is behind the battery. If its whiteish, its too lean and needs a bigger jet! Anyway the idle speed you mentioned makes sense as my air filter is still holier than the pope an i CAN imagine their being debris gettin in but just cant afford any new parts at the mo as am recently outa the job so itl have to wait, Although I havent yet put carb cleaner through the system, I did think there might be some debris cloggin the jets or somethin else, so took the carb apart an ensured all openings were free of dirt by threading fuse wire through them. Hi Daniel, I just had a read of your de restriction page and it was very helpful. Loosen the bolt and pull the pin and you can remove the kickstart from the scooter. Also I dont know what Im looking for as far as performanceI love speed and if I could get this little beast to do a wheelie Id be in heaven.
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